Comments on: Would The National Broadband Network Possibly Be Beneficial To Us? http://citizenonmars.blogsome.com/2007/09/26/would-the-national-broadband-network-possibly-be-beneficial-to-us/ Where Now Is The Citizen Who Has Come From Mars? It Is In The Satellites Above And In The Caverns Underneath The Moving Seas. Get A Boost Of Wisdom. This Is The Playground of Our Minds. Sun, 08 Nov 2009 02:25:28 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=1.5.1-alpha by: Manila Bay Watch http://citizenonmars.blogsome.com/2007/09/26/would-the-national-broadband-network-possibly-be-beneficial-to-us/#comment-3562 Fri, 12 Oct 2007 05:12:09 +0100 http://citizenonmars.blogsome.com/2007/09/26/would-the-national-broadband-network-possibly-be-beneficial-to-us/#comment-3562 Major Tom, You say, "clearly highly disadvantageous to the government, selling the nation down the river." Then, what next is the proper question? Major Tom,

You say, "clearly highly disadvantageous to the government, selling the nation down the river."

Then, what next is the proper question?

]]> by: nelson http://citizenonmars.blogsome.com/2007/09/26/would-the-national-broadband-network-possibly-be-beneficial-to-us/#comment-3561 Fri, 12 Oct 2007 01:36:05 +0100 http://citizenonmars.blogsome.com/2007/09/26/would-the-national-broadband-network-possibly-be-beneficial-to-us/#comment-3561 The physical separatedness of the broadband network is of little significance for security. Gov't people will not be stopped using their gmail or yahoo account, aside from many other great services hosted on other networks. Also, new technologies are being developed and internet is really meant to be a redundant hodge podge of various network systems. If we really want a national broadband, I suggest developing it thru BPL (Broadband over PowerLines) as the powerlines are installed already and what is needed more is the last mile electrification. See http://computer.howstuffworks.com/bpl.htm, http://midas.blogsome.com/ The physical separatedness of the broadband network is of little significance for security. Gov't people will not be stopped using their gmail or yahoo account, aside from many other great services hosted on other networks.

Also, new technologies are being developed and internet is really meant to be a redundant hodge podge of various network systems. If we really want a national broadband, I suggest developing it thru BPL (Broadband over PowerLines) as the powerlines are installed already and what is needed more is the last mile electrification. See http://computer.howstuffworks.com/bpl.htm, http://midas.blogsome.com/

]]> by: Major Tom http://citizenonmars.blogsome.com/2007/09/26/would-the-national-broadband-network-possibly-be-beneficial-to-us/#comment-3455 Sun, 30 Sep 2007 07:29:04 +0100 http://citizenonmars.blogsome.com/2007/09/26/would-the-national-broadband-network-possibly-be-beneficial-to-us/#comment-3455 To Manila Baywatch: I really like to see where all this would end. If the allegations and accusations thrown in this issue were mostly true, then it was such a horrendous conduct for any government officials involved, secretly entering into a sweetened deal, clearly highly disadvantageous to the government, selling the nation down the river. To Manila Baywatch: I really like to see where all this would end. If the allegations and accusations thrown in this issue were mostly true, then it was such a horrendous conduct for any government officials involved, secretly entering into a sweetened deal, clearly highly disadvantageous to the government, selling the nation down the river.

]]> by: Major Tom http://citizenonmars.blogsome.com/2007/09/26/would-the-national-broadband-network-possibly-be-beneficial-to-us/#comment-3454 Sun, 30 Sep 2007 07:25:48 +0100 http://citizenonmars.blogsome.com/2007/09/26/would-the-national-broadband-network-possibly-be-beneficial-to-us/#comment-3454 To anna: We need it but we don't trust the government to operate it. That's the main problem. Maybe we need to see a middle point here where a much cheaper broadband network would be in place but the private telecoms would built it as a consortium. The problem kubng ayaw din ng mga telecoms dito so lugi tayo, nadidiktahan ng mataas na presyo ang connection rates by a virtual monopolistic group. Sana merong middle way dito like PLDT, GLOBE and SMART agreeing for lower rates, at least what the average Asian city is paying. Why should we be paying more? To anna: We need it but we don't trust the government to operate it. That's the main problem. Maybe we need to see a middle point here where a much cheaper broadband network would be in place but the private telecoms would built it as a consortium. The problem kubng ayaw din ng mga telecoms dito so lugi tayo, nadidiktahan ng mataas na presyo ang connection rates by a virtual monopolistic group. Sana merong middle way dito like PLDT, GLOBE and SMART agreeing for lower rates, at least what the average Asian city is paying. Why should we be paying more?

]]> by: Major Tom http://citizenonmars.blogsome.com/2007/09/26/would-the-national-broadband-network-possibly-be-beneficial-to-us/#comment-3453 Sun, 30 Sep 2007 07:18:17 +0100 http://citizenonmars.blogsome.com/2007/09/26/would-the-national-broadband-network-possibly-be-beneficial-to-us/#comment-3453 To BW: Good information on Joey de Venecia III, at least by that we could sum up his person much better. What happened I think is that the ZTE project was fasttracked mainly because of that, huge payolas. If the officials involved were not as greedy, it would have gone through unchecked. Al though it was such a feat for the DOTC to hide it from the general public's view considering the amount involved, a staggering 300 Million dollars, and brave enough to face public reaction when it begins implementation. To BW: Good information on Joey de Venecia III, at least by that we could sum up his person much better.

What happened I think is that the ZTE project was fasttracked mainly because of that, huge payolas. If the officials involved were not as greedy, it would have gone through unchecked.

Al though it was such a feat for the DOTC to hide it from the general public's view considering the amount involved, a staggering 300 Million dollars, and brave enough to face public reaction when it begins implementation.

]]> by: Major Tom http://citizenonmars.blogsome.com/2007/09/26/would-the-national-broadband-network-possibly-be-beneficial-to-us/#comment-3452 Sun, 30 Sep 2007 07:13:49 +0100 http://citizenonmars.blogsome.com/2007/09/26/would-the-national-broadband-network-possibly-be-beneficial-to-us/#comment-3452 To eric: Staggering difference I may say. Even if we consider that the local telecoms still had to be secure in their returns on massive investments on cables and relays, I still see it so exhorbitant vis-a-vis the US rates. Some legislators were suggesting just that, not for gov't to enter into such undertaking but negotiate or compel the local telecom to sell at lower prices. Maybe we should follow the Singaporean plan, which is for government to infuse money in it but leave it alone to the privae sector to operate. To eric: Staggering difference I may say. Even if we consider that the local telecoms still had to be secure in their returns on massive investments on cables and relays, I still see it so exhorbitant vis-a-vis the US rates. Some legislators were suggesting just that, not for gov't to enter into such undertaking but negotiate or compel the local telecom to sell at lower prices. Maybe we should follow the Singaporean plan, which is for government to infuse money in it but leave it alone to the privae sector to operate.

]]> by: Manila Bay Watch http://citizenonmars.blogsome.com/2007/09/26/would-the-national-broadband-network-possibly-be-beneficial-to-us/#comment-3450 Sat, 29 Sep 2007 21:42:40 +0100 http://citizenonmars.blogsome.com/2007/09/26/would-the-national-broadband-network-possibly-be-beneficial-to-us/#comment-3450 as to benefits - no doubt about it. but not at any cost. what I mean here, is not only financial costs but also not at just any sacrifice, i.e., moral and legal. as to benefits - no doubt about it.

but not at any cost. what I mean here, is not only financial costs but also not at just any sacrifice, i.e., moral and legal.

]]> by: Manila Bay Watch http://citizenonmars.blogsome.com/2007/09/26/would-the-national-broadband-network-possibly-be-beneficial-to-us/#comment-3449 Sat, 29 Sep 2007 21:40:33 +0100 http://citizenonmars.blogsome.com/2007/09/26/would-the-national-broadband-network-possibly-be-beneficial-to-us/#comment-3449 Hope this time people do the right thing - not to abandon this issue. No less than the country's election boss is accused. Imagine that? Everything he's done now is suspect, i.e., did he exchange votes for the contract, a retirement gift of sorts? Extraordinary nerve! Hope this time people do the right thing - not to abandon this issue. No less than the country's election boss is accused. Imagine that? Everything he's done now is suspect, i.e., did he exchange votes for the contract, a retirement gift of sorts?

Extraordinary nerve!

]]> by: annamanila http://citizenonmars.blogsome.com/2007/09/26/would-the-national-broadband-network-possibly-be-beneficial-to-us/#comment-3447 Sat, 29 Sep 2007 15:14:01 +0100 http://citizenonmars.blogsome.com/2007/09/26/would-the-national-broadband-network-possibly-be-beneficial-to-us/#comment-3447 I think we really need the national broadband infrastructure. I have seen the comparative table of connection costs between countries ... ours are incredibly high. But this should be private sector led ... government has a dismal record of implementing such projects. Corruption in government -- what else is new? but the scale of corruption. hay naku. I think we really need the national broadband infrastructure. I have seen the comparative table of connection costs between countries ... ours are incredibly high. But this should be private sector led ... government has a dismal record of implementing such projects. Corruption in government -- what else is new? but the scale of corruption. hay naku.

]]> by: bw http://citizenonmars.blogsome.com/2007/09/26/would-the-national-broadband-network-possibly-be-beneficial-to-us/#comment-3442 Fri, 28 Sep 2007 23:50:48 +0100 http://citizenonmars.blogsome.com/2007/09/26/would-the-national-broadband-network-possibly-be-beneficial-to-us/#comment-3442 We all know that payolas in this kind of deals happen all the time but shit hits the fan real hard when a voracious croc who wants most of the pie emerges and starts shoving and bullying people off :( It is no wonder our long distance rates are still one of the highest in Asia - because government officials sabotage the industry :( Families of politicians are allowed to pursue their own business interests. This part and parcel of the democracy we enjoy. There is no conflict interest as long as the politician does not own shares or sit in the board of a company that bids within the rules set by the government regulation. Incidentally JDV III is not a spring chicken in the telecom business - he's been in the industry for many years now. We all know that payolas in this kind of deals happen all the time but shit hits the fan real hard when a voracious croc who wants most of the pie emerges and starts shoving and bullying people off :( It is no wonder our long distance rates are still one of the highest in Asia - because government officials sabotage the industry :(

Families of politicians are allowed to pursue their own business interests. This part and parcel of the democracy we enjoy. There is no conflict interest as long as the politician does not own shares or sit in the board of a company that bids within the rules set by the government regulation. Incidentally JDV III is not a spring chicken in the telecom business - he's been in the industry for many years now.

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